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Hot rodding PC's and Hot rodding cars have a lot in common, the initial tweaks to a system are cheap and the gains are high, as you move on the gains are less, and the cost goes up. That being said, I believe that the Killer Nic was correctly advertised, it's not for everyone. I preorderd one and put it in one of teenagers machines (he is ahead of me on the performance curve at the moment as I've been holding back on a new box), he has noticed improvements. I don't think this is the kind of product that you can benchmark well as there are too many variables in an online game that you will never be able to duplicate, it is going to come down to total game experience in the long run.
At this time it almost seems that there are 2 camps in the PC community, ppl that are willing to fill those slots on a MB with an item and those that stick with onboard solutions. Oblviously I'm in the add on camp, as I took a shot at one of these cards, I also don't use onboard sound, and I think Aegia has some great ideas/tech. Personally I'd like to buy a good MB without having to pay for all the crap on it that I don't need.
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Ok I have been trying to find an objective 3rd party review that truly puts the killer nic through its paces. The IGN review was more like an overview.
Hard ocp was started off by sandbagging for the card
"First off, let’s get down to brass tacks. Unless you have $279.00 burning a hole in your pocket that you might be willing to spend on a NIC, then just stop reading right here."
They admit that they did not intend to review the card.
"Also, this is not a review or evaluation of this product. It is simply and outline of what the product is about."
Source: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTE1MywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
I want to believe in this card, I just want to see some real, well-tested results before I pay $270 to occupy the ever shrinking expansion slot real estate on my mainboard.
So far all I have seen are overviews and excuses. The data that the community has seen comes from very small and poorly designed tests and is definately not enough to come to any conclusions over.
If Bigfoot Networks is truly dedicated to fighting lag then you'd all do well to make sure that different 3rd party reviewers get as many cards as they need and test test test them until they are bored to tears of testing. If your product works then there'd be nothing to hide, in fact you should be tripping over yourselves make sure this happens. Tom's hardware did the kind of testing that the Killer NIC needs when they reviewed Ageia PPU.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/19/can_ageia/
I don't care who does the review it just better be full of information and not just an overview. You guys had your time to do overviews when you were developing the card. If your card works then get it into the hands of as many well respected reviewers and let them test it. Otherwise you can forget ever seeing any of my money. In fact I’ll go out of my way to let every forum I frequent, clan I game with, and person in my life know that at the very least Bigfoot Networks has not proven that the public should spend 1 cent on the Killer NIC. I must say a visit to these forums has not inspired much confidence.
Tytus said:
"But Killer NIC isn't for everyone, and this website isn't just about Killer... so please keep contributing in the other areas, keep up the fight against Lag, and never give up: (Believe me, I havn't!!!)"
Ok Tytus maybe this site isnt 100% about Killer NIC but it is about reducing lag and lets face it you guys put up this site as a way to market your rather expensive but yet to be tested and verified NIC card. It sounds to me like you're backpedaling with this statement.
jeepdave said:
“Value is in the eye of the beholder....like Tytus said, it's not for everyone...neither is Quad SLI or 30" LCD's. I don't think there is any point to the "is it worth $300" debate. (It's $279, BTW).
Is a Corvette 'worth' $75k? A Kia Rio will get you from point A to point B for $8,999. “
The “ Its not for everyone”argument can be used for just about every item manufactured on the planet. That is not the point. Bigfoot Networks is claiming they can increase performance in online games and they want a significant amount of money for this performance.We want to know how much of a boost we can expect to get out of this purchase. The valuation of products for automobiles and computer hardware happen to be worlds apart. It’s funny that you mention a Corvette vs a Rio. You see for some people paying 75k for the former would be worth it just for the head turning affect alone but in the online gaming arena people don’t usually care about bragging on an expensive part especially if the performance increase is nominal or lacks good data to back it up.
Corvettes and Rios have been tested and each offer their own unique set of pros and cons. If the Killer NIC is the Corvette and the Rio is the Onboard NIC would you buy a Killer based on what Bigfoot Networks says it can do? If so I have closets and drawers full of old..er I mean vintage pc hardware that will play all of your games like a champ. 
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ELN Board Member, Bigfoot Networks CEO
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http://www.gdhardware.com/hardware/networking/bigfoot/killer/review/001.htm
Not sure what you mean about a lot of your post: it's very close to being considered flaming (and the mod's don't like that too much).
But the above linked reveiw is very objective from a very reputable site.
I do expect even more reviews soon.
As for Lag: heck yes! Keep up the fight, and that IS the whole point of this website.
Any manufacturer or maker of products that fight lag, or even game makers who make cool lagfighting games are more than welcome to post here...
Such as this one:http://endlagnow.org/ELNForums/Topic396-16-1.aspx
If you don't like the guys who run ELN (it's not me), you don't have to hang here... but please do contribute to some of the other topics if you have tips/gripes/etc about lag.
Tytus
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[ELN]Tytus - EndLagNow.ORG
Member of the Board of Directors of ELN
CEO + Mad Scientist of Bigfoot Networks, Inc.
http://www.bigfootnetworks.com
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