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WHY IM A LAGGING?

Ceramicwhite — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 13:50:02 GMT

I just recieved a brand new Alienware laptop, and ever since i started playing CS:S on it lags terribly my old Vaio computer works fine never lags but this 2500$ alienware laptop lags terribly but in intervals so every 2 minutes my computer will spazz out and lag for 5 seconds freezing everything and then it will glitch forward to where the game really is and then it repeats straight away four or five times and then it dissapears for a minute or two. it's extremely frustrating because i know my computer can handle the game my internet is fine and so is the server. the lag meter shows all yellow for client so im guessing that it is my computer. so how can i fix this? whats wrong?
heres my laptop details if that helps
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Prod. Order No.: PO-410761A
I. Identification
Customer Name: JASPER J BOWER
Customer Account. No.: 374503

II. Configuration

Processor(s)

Processor 1
Name: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-44

Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD

Caption: x86 Family 15 Model 36 Stepping 2

Version: Model 4, Stepping 2

Processor Id: 078BFBFF00020F42

Current Clock Speed: 795MHz

Address Width: 32Bits

Data Width: 32Bits

Socket Designation: CPU 1

Verified Hardware Device against Order: CPU-TURIONML44
Verify Correct Processor Frequency

Case Color: New Background

System Memory

Memory Module 1
Capacity: 1024MB

Bank Label: DIMM #1

Mem_Type: DDR-SDRAM

Mem_Bandwidth: PC3200 (200 MHz)

Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-MOBLDDR1GBAW90

Verify Correct Memory Size

Verify Correct Memory Type

Memory Module 2
Capacity: 1024MB

Bank Label: DIMM #2

Mem_Type: DDR-SDRAM

Mem_Bandwidth: PC3200 (200 MHz)

Verified Hardware Device against Order: MEM-MOBLDDR1GBAW90

Verify Correct Memory Size

Verify Correct Memory Type

BIOS Information

Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.
Name: Default System BIOS
Version: W830D315
Version: A M I - 4000626

Motherboard Information

Manufacturer: alienware
Product: Aurora m9700
Serial Number: W830DA AB040
Version: AB040
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MB-W830DAX17WXGA
Verify correct motherboard
Power settings optimized

Video Adapter

Caption: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
Adapter RAM: 256MB
DriverVersion: 6.14.10.8474
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MOBL-VIDW830DAG71256
Test Video Card

Hard Drive(s)

ST9120821AS
Model: ST9120821AS

Size: 120GB

Total Heads: 255

Total Cylinders: 14593

Total Tracks: 3721215

Tracks Per Cylinder: 255

Optical Drives / Other Storage

_NEC DVD_RW ND-6750A

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center

DirectX Version: 9c

Assembler Initials: RR

Tester Initials: AI

Test Date: 07/14/2006 11:04 AM

III. Burn-In/Benchmarks

Doom 3

Doom 3: 120.6 fps

3DMark 2005

Game Tests
3DMark Score: 9,645.00 3DMarks

GT1 - Return To Proxycon: 36.79 FPS

GT2 - Firefly Forest: 28.97 FPS

GT3 - Canyon Flight: 53.90 FPS

CPU Tests
CPU Score: 4,164.00 CPUMarks

CPU Test 1: 1.97 FPS

CPU Test 2: 3.91 FPS

IV. IRQ Configuration
0 System timer
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
2 -available-
3 -available-
4 -available-
5 -available-
6 -available-
7 -available-
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
10 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
11 -available-
12 Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad
13 Numeric data processor
14 -available-
15 Secondary IDE Channel
17 Atheros Wireless Network Adapter
17 NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
18 Marvell Yukon 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
19 NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
19 Ricoh MMC Host Controller
19 Ricoh Memory Stick Host Controller
19 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
20 SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
20 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
21 Agere Systems AC'97 Modem
22 NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller
22 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
23 NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller

V. Miscellaneous

_NEC DVD_RW ND-6750A

Device Name: _NEC DVD_RW ND-6750A
Description: CD-ROM Drive
Class: CDROM
Service: cdrom
Driver Version: 5.1.2535.0
Driver Date: 7-1-2001
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MOBL-NEC8XDVDRW
test optical drive if applicable

Atheros Wireless Network Adapter

Device Name: Atheros Wireless Network Adapter
Description: Atheros Wireless Network Adapter
Class: Net
Service: AR5211
Driver Version: 4.2.2.14
Driver Date: 3-23-2006
Vendor Id: 168C
Device Id: 0013
Revision: 0001
IRQ Number: 17
Verified Hardware Device against Order: MOBL-MINIPCIABGCM9

VI. Final Checks
Inspect machine for exterior defects
Power and data cables connected properly and bundled neatly
Components securely in place with correct type and quantity of screws to prevent short circuiting
System powers on
All fans function
All LEDs function
Ensure BIOS updated
Ensure BIOS boot up sequence runs in proper order
Check for DMI Installation
System settings customized
Application and utility software installed and tested
Correct DirectX version installed
All hardware functions properly
Device drivers installed and tested
Verify Operating System against Order
System burn-in run to ensure system operates at peak efficiency
Run Scandisk
Empty Recycle Bin
Check for CDs in the drives
Test all ports
Run Disk Cleanup
Defrag the System Drive
Ensure Operating system installed, optimized, and purged of any unnecessary programs
Benchmark scores meet performance standards
Shutdown and unplug the system
Plug the system back in and ensure system boots up properly
Repeat previous 2 steps
Shutdown and unplug the systems
Check for Windows sticker Placement
Check for Setup Poster
Check for Customer Support Warranty Information
Ensure all periphials are with system
Mousepad Present
Agent ID card present
Ensure all cables are with system
Ensure all device manuals are with system
Ensure all driver disks are with system
Ensure all software CDs are with system
Ensure correct Recovery CD with system
Check for Power Cord
System cleaned and buffed
System poly-bagged, and packaged with Styrofoam to prevent damage during shipping
No scratches, dents, or other damage on peripherals
Peripherals sealed securely
Shipping box sealed securely
Correct shipping labels placed on peripheral boxes
Correct labels placed on shipping box
Sales invoice present
Shipping manager sign-off
Checklist present
System shipped to the customer

VII. Installed Device Drivers
Microsoft AC Adapter, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-44, 10-26-2004, 1.2.2.0
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad, 2-3-2006, 8.2.15.0
_NEC DVD_RW ND-6750A, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
ST9120821AS, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2600.2180
NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller, 4-24-2006, 5.10.2600.666
Agere Systems AC'97 Modem, 2-15-2006, 2.1.66.0
SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio, 3-9-2006, 5.12.1.5500
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS, 5-8-2006, 8.4.7.4
Ricoh Memory Stick Host Controller, 9-14-2005, 1.0.2.2
SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller, 10-1-2002, 6.0.4069.1
OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Ricoh MMC Host Controller, 9-17-2005, 1.0.0.8
Marvell Yukon 88E8055 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller, 1-4-2006, 8.49.2.3
Atheros Wireless Network Adapter, 3-23-2006, 4.2.2.14
Primary IDE Channel, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2600.2180
Secondary IDE Channel, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2600.2180
Bluetooth Bus Enumerator, 3-9-2006, 5.0.1.2200
Winvnc video hook driver, 9-25-2001, 1.1.0.0
Audio Codecs, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Legacy Audio Drivers, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Media Control Devices, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Legacy Video Capture Devices, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Video Codecs, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Microsoft Kernel System Audio Device, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver, 7-1-2001, 5.1.2535.0
BisonCam, NB Pro, 4-12-2006, 2.6.0.76
Broadcom 2045 Bluetooth 2.0 USB Device, 3-9-2006, 5.0.1.2200
Bluetooth Audio, 3-9-2006, 5.0.1.2200
Bluetooth High Quality Audio, 3-9-2006, 5.0.1.2200

I really need help please

tycj10 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:19:02 GMT

Well yea i play World Of Warcraft and i lag out every time i enter dalrann
my video settings are down, addons off
i dont what else to do
can anyone help me?

Linux platform can address to fight a lag issues

Ikyuao — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:44:49 GMT

Linux can also some to address this game online lag with ifconfig utility command line parameter settings like this:
ifconfig ethx txqueuelen x (select 5000, 10000 or 50000 if desire) that really works for me without needing a killer NIC device card, Since I have linux OS installed on my computer and I tried to play a game online as quake3 clone games on a an experimental tests how ifconfig parameter settings can perform to send UDP and receive UDP so much faster and that worked for me.

This LAG is killing my inner child!!! please help

rocketmist111 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:01:19 GMT

Hey guys,
I stumbled upon this site while looking for a way to end a recent lag crisis I have been having. Let me give you guys the details and see if anyone has ever had the same problem and knows how to fix it.

Basic System Specs:
XP Pro w/ SP3
AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-42 single-core(I am on a laptop)
- 2.4 GHz freq
- L1 Cache 128kb
- L2 Cache 512kb
2GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS SLI (x2)
((I rarely use SLI because I do not notice a massive performance jump and I use dual view, which can not be done when SLI is active. Again I have been doing this forever, so it is not the cause of the problems I am experiencing.)

Here is my problem: Every so often, in EverQuest2 and EQ2 only, I will get a TERRIBLE lag spike. It will totally kill my FPS for approx 10 seconds and then snap out of it and be fine. This happens routinely in 10 minutes (approx) and is VERY annoying. I have been playing EQ2 on my laptop for little of a year now with no problems until one month ago when this started happening.

I have a few questions/comments for anyone who can help!!

I notice that normally I run a total of about 50 processes with EQ2 (yes i know its a bit much, I need to clean her out but just bare with me) with 50 processes running my CPU erratically jumps between 15-40% (approx). When I start up eq2, it bounces between 85-100%. Which is odd.. I also notice that during my lag episodes, I can hear a fan RPMs in my laptop turn up (or maybe a hard drive spin??)

It is non-network related.
It is non-GPU related (I can kill my graphics in the game to min settings where I run real high FPS and I will STILL have the spike!)

Here are my questions:

1.) My processor is 2.4GHz, why is it that when i right-click on my computer, and go to properties to see my comp info, it says this:

"AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile
Technology ML-42
1.59GHz, 2.00 GB of RAM
Physical Address Extension"

My concern is why does it say 1.59GHz? It is a 2.4GHz proecssor..

2.) Page File size, what should it be for my system?? I messed around with it not too long ago (I am pretty sure I set it back to what it should be).

Thanks for anyone who read this or anyone who can help!!

bring my laptop baaaackkk!!!!
:p
thanks!

Interleaving ADSL Users

DEADLY-TDG- — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:47:14 GMT

Read this first:

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/interleaving.htm

Interleaving can increase your ping by 20-30ms, yes it's true, no BS

Ring your ISP to get it turned off, worked for me gaming lag much more capable now.

I dropped from 33ms to 15ms.

Lag Meter Vista64?

DEADLY-TDG- — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:41:21 GMT

I can't get it working just comes up with an App error does it support vista?

Seperate Operating System for Gaming? DMZ It!

DEADLY-TDG- — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:54:57 GMT

Ok if you have a seperate Operating System for gaming, or another computer, try putting it in the DMZ zone of your router.

Basically this makes it skip the firewall and go straight too the net. Risky but i find i'm ok on a seperate Operating System with nothing on it.

You'll have to give that Operating System a seperate Static IP, to do this follow these instructions:

(Copied from another Site, can't remember the Site tho)

To set a static IP address, follow these steps:

1. In the Network Connections folder, select the connection whose settings you want to change.

2. Use any of the following techniques to open the properties dialog box for the selected connection:

> Select the connection and click Change Settings Of This Connection.
> Right-click the connection icon and choose Properties from the shortcut menu.
> Double-click the connection icon to open the Status dialog box and then click the Properties button on the General tab.

3. In the list of installed network components, select Internet Protocol Version

4 (TCP/IPv4) or Internet Protocol Version 6 (TCP/IPv6) and then click the Properties button.

4. In the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Properties dialog box, select Use The Following IP Address and fill in the blanks. You must supply an IP address, a subnet mask (for IPv6, the length of the subnet prefix, which is usually 64 bits), and a default gateway.

5. Select Use The Following DNS Server Addresses and fill in the numeric IP addresses for one or more DNS servers as well.

6. Click OK to save your changes. You do not need to reboot after changing your IP configuration.

To get the correct information like DNS settings goto command Prompt> type ipconfig

This should give you the correct settings, there might be anotherway but i can't remember.

2Gig Of Ram Or More?? Turn Off Pagefile!!

DEADLY-TDG- — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:08:03 GMT

I've done this along time, turning it off stops memory going to the pagefile, which is much slower since it's accessing the HDD.
I've never had any problems with it off, i can play Crysis pretty good with 2GB of ram on Vista.

I looked up for some instructions on howto do it, saves me writing it =P

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000422.html

Will raptor 10K drive help?

h0tD0G — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:48:28 GMT

Hello everybody,

First of all I want to say that I appreciate all the useful information I've found here regarding lag. I certainly have learned some new things. My question is: I know that a slow hard disk will introduce lag into gameplay, so I was wondering if I were to upgrade from an IDE133 7200 rpm disk drive to a raptor 10K rpm drive will that give me a noticeable improvement? Theoretically it should, but would it be noticeable? Please let me know your opinions. Thank you all.

PS. I run with 2 gigs opf PC3200 ram. I actually have it overclocked to 211. Samsung UCCC. No wireless.

Wireless lag DURING gaming

ThomasLardner — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:34:10 GMT

ok so heres the story
i recently swithced from DSL to FIOS
and directly connected to dsl to wirelessly connected to FIOS
i never had problems with being directly connected to fios. and its not the internet seeing as how fios is better then dsl

so heres the problem
im suffering lag in games when i play, i dont know what it is
i mean nothing else is effected by lag like file transfering or downloading
only in games i lag.
i think it maybe with the signal spikes
my signal constantly changes from 54 to 34 to 48 mbps during games.
anyone help me?

Xbox 360 online LAG

TW Steimy — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:21:32 GMT

Just wanted to see what my best course of action may be. First i will lay out all the specs:

Computer running Windows XP Pro

2GB RAM

2.13GHz Core2Duo processor overclocked to 2.4GHz

Linksys WRT54GS Router

Linksys WGA54G Wireless adapter

I have the connection currently set up as DHCP, with both Xbox 360 ports forwarded and the DMZ open to the Xbox 360 IP address.

I was considering a change to a static IP but am not sure if any of this is doing me any good as far as hosting games (Rainbow Six Vegas 2 to be exact)

My connection is an 8MB cable connection, last test i ran i was roughly 7890 down and 492 up. But i still get lag at about 13-14 people in a room. Although i do understand this could be due to thier bad connection as much as it is mine.

so any thoughts and ideas would be great.

Please help me otu here

Dragox2007 — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:55:17 GMT

OK. My parents got Virgin media 2mbps interbet (**** i know) Heres how its set p in my house.

Virgin Media Modem
| Thru Usb
Family PC:
AMD Athlon 2800+ 2ghz
1gb ddr 400mhz ram
geforce 6200 agp
seagate 80gb
some crap psu
Vista ultimate 32
crapy Motherboard NIC
| Thru Ethernet
My PC:
Pentium D 820 OC 4.5ghz
2gb ddr2 Battlestix @ 950mhz
Zotac GEforce 8600gts
Raptor 150gb hdd
ezcool psu
vista ultimate
nforce 570 slit a

I cant connect the internet through my pc because my family's pc refuses to connect for sum reason. Is there any way that i can speed up my connection in games? And how can i specifically block ports? I want to stop Live messenger from connecting (because my sister logs in and just stays logged in like a greedy cow). If not are there any routers that are dead easy to set up with virgin, and i can asign priority or something. Im trying my ass of to convince my parents to upgrade to 20mb virgin and give me £200 to give there pc a good old pimp up. They refuse to switch isp cause they can be bothered with paying two people for difrent services (we also got the phone and telly.). So Is there any way i can easly speed up my internet, and prioritise my pc ont he network? all the others use that pc for is the internet.

Vertical synchronization?

Protoflare — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:22:08 GMT

where can I turn vertical synchronization on? or if it is a downloadable program where can I download it? I heard it might help me stop lagging so I decided to ask about it.

internet lag

sportsmaster — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:40:25 GMT

im at college on their network and its extremely laggy, usually its laggy until 4-5 and i cant play any computer games but lately it has been laggy all day. is there any way to reduce this so i can play some games to ease my boredom?

how to get rid of lag

Discrate — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:17:45 GMT

well i use to lag stacks and i had a pretty good computer and i was using cable braodband. But when i got a new computer i got 1 gig of ram and i was using wireless and now no lag. So i think who ever lags should get more ram it stoped the lag for me!

Why does lagmeter continue to work after I finish the game?

BustaCapp — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:48:39 GMT

My lagmeter keeops working after I finish the game and disconnect from the server. Why does it do this? Where is is pinging to?

Tip -- Host your own server

TurkeySandwich — Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:47:30 GMT

I started hosting my own Halo games instead of playing on everybody else's servers, and I win almost everytime I play. I think this is because of two reasons:

1) I am a badass with a sniper rifle or rocket launcher

2) Having the lowest latency is really a huge advantage.

Of course I still lag sometimes (usually the WORSE times), but I try to help by limiting my games to 6 people or less to ease the server burden.

When I play on other people's servers I usually in the top 3, but rarely win. On my own server (even playing against some of the same folks) I come out on top most of the time (75%+). Not fair I know, but I never realized how badly the odds were stacked against me when I was playing on other people's servers who were overloaded with way too many players.

Lagmeter graph for Killer NIC does not show improvement?

h0tD0G — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:24:13 GMT

Hello folks,

I was able to run the lagmeter and noticed that the source of my lag is all from my ISP (network). Below the estimated lags per minute with the Killer do not show an improvement? How could this be? Is this a bug in the software or am I DOOMED with my ISP. Please see screenie. Thanks.

Im Lagging but my friends are not...

Zombine666 — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:07:37 GMT

well i remeber there were those time i didnt have lags at all but now for some reasons(probabley since the server grew i mean the amout of people)i strated to experience lags this game is a RPG with very low requirments to FPS isnt the problem so ill tell you my internet info:

1.5M Download

i dont remember the upload but it is low.

and i use ADSL

i heared ppl sayed that if ill have a faster upload ill experience less lags ohh and ive checked where the lags come and i figured out that they are from the client (for me) so it is probabley something with my internet since ive reinstalled my computer completly and followed all the staps in this site and i even chanched the 20% usage of QoS the windows takes away.

so please help me figure out my problem should i change internet for a faster one?or what should i do?...

i lag on UO and a EQ private server...

omera — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:58:35 GMT

i've been running ok on ultima online (though sometimes hunk of **** lags) but EQ shards of dalaya private server lag like HELL!

i have 156 (i think) SDRAM (yeah it sucks) and my settings for EQ are turned all the way down. is there any setting outside of the game client i can turn down?

Fix This

Chuck — Sat, 05 May 2007 21:53:34 GMT

I have a gaming rig. It does nothing but connect me to servers with as much speed as I can drag out of it.

In other words this thing is optimized for online gaming.

Here's the problem:

Cogent

Check this trace out:

And this is just a quick five minute snap shot. You should see what it looks like after a couple of hours

No NIC is going to fix those ping spikes (green lines) in hops 3 through 8.

I'm getting a 10%+ packet loss because of this at times. And the spikes are giving me freezes and warps that could drive you to drink

What I need to know, then, is there way around crappy servers like this? Is there software or hardware that can force a reroute?

Is there anything that can be done besides giving up and using my modem as a door stop?

Thanks for any help,

Chuck

Insane Lag

Tyr — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:28:14 GMT

I have a wireless network based around an Airport Express base station. Three Notebook PCs are connected to it at most times, one mine and two others.

When the other two computers and/or other machines, including PDAs, Nintendo-DSs, etc., in any combination are connected there are no problems at all.

As soon as my computer is using the network heavily, for example playing a Steam game, then all the network slows to a halt and nobody can do anything at all. If I disconnect it all returns to normal. This is using a WiFi card or LAN cable (through an other machine).

What would cause the network to grind to a standstill only when my computer is connected and using the network for a game?

When surfing or even downloading a file there is no problem, only when gaming...

And it is only with my machine, no other device...

I can't find anything to explain it at this end and am completely stumped. Google turns up nothing and I'm rather stuck.

HELP!!!

The "Weapons" against Lag

Otaru — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:01:47 GMT

There are five things that work against "Lag" right now :

Computer :

The better the Computer is , the better it will be on the Game Side.

Internet :

The better the Internet Connection is , the better it will be on the Internet Side.

Comparation : Lan > Fiber Optic > DSL >= Cable > Radio > Sattelite > ISDN > 56K > 28K.

Wired > Wireless most of times.

Fiber Optic is the best of all right now. Some users say that they have 5-15 Ping when playing with Fiber Optic Connection.

DSL => Cable because Cable is a little better than DSL when not overcrowded but when overcrowded with users the performance will get way worse and DSL will be Better.

So Cable = Good but not Reliable , DSL = Good and reliable.

NIC :

The better the NIC is , the better it will be on the Game/Internet Side.

Specially if it has FNA for Offloading things like Firewall / VOIP
Programs from the Computer Processor.

Killer NIC did a very good job on this , creating a Network Card that offloads CPU Processing , has FNA and tweaks the packets so your gameplay will be better. Reducing Ping / Spikes to almost nothing and increasing FPS by a very good ammount. It completely destroys the Spikes.

Projects : Killer NIC.

Gaming Network :

Creating a Local Interconnection for Gamers is a good thing to do. It will reduce Hops / Traffic Congestion and will make the Gaming Experience more enjoyable.

By removing the Traffic Congestion it will reduce the possible Spikes and make the gaming faster.

Internet Side

Projects : Game Rail.

Gaming Platform :

There is a project made by Chinese Guys that tweak the game packets making you have almost no lag when playing with foreign people. It really reduces Lag to 0 , but it uses all your connection to do so... Making the Upload Requirements to be very high ( Almost four times more ). Still it has some Spiking but it is more a problem of Network Card than because of their system.

Internet Side

Projects : GG-Game and other Asiatic Starcraft Gaming Platforms.

Conclusion : By making a Combination with at last three of these things you can reduce lag to almost nothing. My advice would be to use all of them if you can .

On the Hardware Side you have Internet Connection / NIC / Computer and on the Software Side you have GameRail and GG-Game. Both ways are very interesting aproaches to reduce lag.

Links :

www.endlagnow.org
www.killernic.com
www.gg-game.com
www.gamerail.com

GAMERAIL???

DanDruff — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:11:33 GMT

http://www.gamerail.com/index.php?family=

Anyone seen or heard anything about this?? Sounds like a good idea!!

Optimizing LAN lag

Concillian — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:58:19 GMT

I ran Lagmeter for a while and it basically says there are no issues with client (average LPM 62 -- 36 server / 2 client / 24 network) The graphs for 'estimated with a killer' look very, very similar to my current graphs.

Ping chart while playing WoW were in the 90 range, very few points over 100ms.

My network is not of the typical topology. I tested in the condition where nobody was using the other computers on the network and in this case the topology is:

Gaming PC --> Linux Box / fileserver / router --> Broadxent DSL modem --> DSL port --> Speakeasy service

Gaming PC is running Windows 2000 on:
A64 2.4 GHZ / 2G / 7800GT
using the nForce4 built in gigabit

Linux Box is running Ubuntu on:
A64 2.0 GHz / 1G
using dual Broadxent LAN ports that are built into the H8SSL-i board (LAN one is running gigabit and the one to the modem is running at whatever the modem runs at, probably 100 mbit.

If other computers are on the network, they're obviously behind the Linux Box.

My understanding is that the largest source of user controllable lag exists at points where the speed goes from relatively fast to relatively slow. In my case this would be:
at the linux box where it goes from 1000 mbit to 100 mbit
and
at the DSL modem where it goes from 100 mbit to 768kbit

Presumably here the largest issue would be at the DSL modem because it's a much larger change in speed... this is normally the kind of thing that could be monitored and attributed to "client" by Lagmeter, but with my network topology, this is probably attributed to "network".

Now I'm not having huge issues or anything, just looking to optimize what I have setup. Removal of the linux box is a non-option, there are other uses of the Linux box that I need to have that box in the network for (squeezebox server, RAID array fileserver, etc...)

So now the questions:
1) Is there a way to monitor lag performance or otherwise diagnose the specific link between the Linux Box and DSL modem

2a) assuming the answer to 1) is no what steps in configuring Linux can be taken to optimize performance here?

2b) I've read a little about throttling network interfaces so Linux can handle the packet queues so you have a bit more control over priority compared to dumping it all in the DSL modem's buffer for it to sort out however it likes to. Any advice on how to best do this? I'm not shy of scripts or config files and the like.

2c) It is my understnading that if I do something like in 2b) that I should be able to have a more usable connection when my upload bandwidth is saturated (like when downloading WoW patches using their POS bittorrent downloader that will fully saturate upload bandwidth, choking off it's own download capability. Is that a correct assessment?

Newbie at this

Agrizzle — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:06:54 GMT

Hey, I play online games alot like BF2142 and WoW (quit tho) and I also play Warcraft 3 frozen throne. My question is, how would I be able to host games on Warcraft 3? I have a Linksys wireless receiver and me and my bro can log onto the games we create, but I think thats an IP issue, but no one else can join. What can I do to open up the ports to allow others to join our games so we can host instead of look for games?

How do i fight this lag

Rialto. — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:10:55 GMT

Could some one help me with my lag?
my game has been freezing, screen stuttering, warping, rubberbanding, vanishing, Delayed responses, timeout, screen jumping, Pause and sudden catch up, game out of synch i've had everything and i hope you guys help

http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lagmeterfw6.png
thats the site my lagmeter results are on. I couldn't put it on the post because at the moment i cant copy and paste anything, another problem of my computer.

Anyone know of some Packet Prioritzer or QoS Software

tekki — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:40:06 GMT

Anyone know where i could get some QoS Software or a Packet Prioritezer (the second one is what im really looking for) just so i can torrent and play games at same time

VOIP question

Renocide — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:28:43 GMT

Hi.

I have Cablevision that provides my internet access. I'm also using a VOIP(Vonage) serivce for my home phone. Typical setup. The line comes out of the wall and into the cable modem. Then CAT5 connects the modem to a Microsoft wireless router. The router has 4 wired connections which connect my Xbox360, Toshiba HD-A1(HD-DVD) player, my PC, and the fourth goes to the VIOP router that was given to us by Vonage. I have a single phone line connected to the VIOP router and thats all thats on it. I have two wireless laptops that are upstairs that connect to the wireless router.

I've had the VOIP for several months and even got online when I first got it hooked up and played some online games while my wife was on the phone and didn't notice any kind of issue with my connection. It might have raised my pings a little but nothing that was really hurting my "skillz" while playing online. Recently though I have noticed that when someone is making a call my pings are getting SLAPPED around like crazy. I connect to fairly local server and ususally get 5-20 ping. When someone is on the phone now it rockets to over 125 and, due to a server side setting, I get booted for the high ping.

What can I do to help with this situation? I really want to keep my VOIP since they only charge me $15 a month where Verizon use to charge around $50.

Anyone have some tweak that might help me out?

Thanks.

Major lag/ping spikes in BF2

GentlemanJK — Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:36:57 GMT

I have a problem in BF2 where every so often (varies) I get massive ping spikes. I'll go from a steady 37 all the way to 950. It lasts long enough that most servers will kick me for high average ping. I have tried all of the recommended fixes from the BF2 community:

shut down a vast array of unused services
no spyware/adware
no A/V, anti-spyware or firewall software running
updated punkbuster
replaced known-issue punkbuster file
no BitTorrent or P2P software installed

My setup is:
AMD A64 3700+
2GB DDR500
NForce4 Gigabit NIC (Also tried Marvell Gb NIC)
Windows XP Pro - on a domain (maybe a clue here?)
D-Link DGL-4300 "gaming" router - Gb wired connection
Comcast cable internet - 6MB Down 384K up

When I run lagmeter it shows that the majority of lag is client based (102 of 132 total lags/min.) but only if I monitor all ports. If I watch only BF2 ports it reports no significant lag, but I have yet to notice it in any other network related functions.

HELP! Is there a way to get lagmeter to reveal which ports are the ones being "hammered"? Any thoughts on things other things to try?

GentlemanJK

Virus Scanners

Geordieboy — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:14:30 GMT

After reading through the words of advice on the main page over and over again - I've been debating in my head over one in particular

2. TURN OFF YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
LAG REDUCING TIP #2

We all hate viruses, but anti-virus software eats up valuable CPU cycles that could be spent helping you frag your enemy. Turn it off, and free up your processor to focus on the game. Don't forget to turn your anti-virus software back on or run regular scans when not playing!

Now; I understand some of the logic behind it, and obviously running the Virus sweep afterwards helps get rid of some viruses...but there are others which seemingly can't be detected by Virus Scanners, that cause havoc to the PC. Occasionally, I've found myself needing to reformat the system which is a huge inconvienience when I need vital programs for Coursework and other academic tasks.

After further analysis; I've found many more online games are becoming vulnerable to viruses (such as Garry's Mod and Enemy Territory to name a couple).

So is it safe to shut down the Virus Scanner?

Okay i need some help troubleshooting my lag.

sarevok9 — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:44:37 GMT

To begin with i am not currently able to buy / upgrade anything, however i can drive out to the person who sold me the comp and get the wireless nic replaced. I am using a dell p4 (2.4 ghz) / 1gb ram / 100gb hdd / 256mb card.

Since about 2 weeks ago i have been expirencing a frequent issue with lag, and i have replaced my computer / router. The lag is actually quite interesting (ill post screenies of netstumbler in a follow up)

At present i have winblows wireless zero config off, i use a ralink 2500+ wireless nic, actiontec mi-424-wr router, verizon fios 5m/2m connection. Im about 15 feet or so from the router and ill let you decide on the problem and the fix based on the netstumbler / lagmeter results. I will be availabkle to answer questions / follow-ups.

~sarevok9~

images now up sorry bout the 15 min wait.

D-Link GamerLounge with GameFuel

Tytus — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:04:44 GMT

I have one in the lab now, and have started wondering if anyone else has any experience testing it?

I'm wondering if there are any good tests for it (similar to what we are doing with Killer)
http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/KillerStats.aspx

Anyone try this yet?

p.s. it does seem to work with Killer, but I can't tell if it adds anything yet: although I suspect it would if someone sitting next to me were downloading something or something...

I wish there was a white paper on GameFuel like we've published for Killer.

Tytus

Anyone got FiOS yet???

DanDruff — Mon, 08 May 2006 11:26:11 GMT

I see Verizon is starting to offer fiber optic broadband...but not in my area yet....

15MPS down/ 2 MPS up for $49 a month...aw hellz yeah!!! I would hope this would help curb "some" of the lag.

Need help with Lag Meter not running

slopok — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:55:14 GMT

I can't find a Lagmeter troubleshooting topic so I'll just post here. I ran Lag Meter just fine for about a week. Then I sent an anonymous email with my Lagmeter info to you and after which the program stopped working. I have a screen shot of the program here and would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to get it working again. I uninstalled it twice with reboots and then reinstalled it to get this same error each time.

for the sake of BF2 and WoW!

BattleDrumz — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:05:37 GMT

After coming back from the college dorms (with the oh so beautiful T3) I find myself hating lag.

I have satellite internet (I know I know... ) but due to where I live, it's either that or 56k. My desktop connects to a lynksys G wireless router via belkin wirelss adapter about 20ft away and through a wall.

I know this sounds like a first rate lag horror story, but I was wondering if the would be any easy solutions (like a more efficient or more powerfull router?) The lagmeter shows the majority of my ping comming from the network.... please help.

Ill post a screen of lag meter if that would help.

AMD AM2 K8L or Intel Conroe/Merom Core 2 DUO processor

hunter — Mon, 22 May 2006 16:15:55 GMT

Pick and choose your poison fellas!

Choosing the RIGHT component Mix.

Tytus — Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:32:56 GMT

I'll be writing more about this in my Blog, but I just wanted to start some discussion here:

the premise:
"Never have too little of any one thing"

When you're designing a gaming system, remember the key word "system". you can't have too little of any one thing.

Tons of examples, and I'd love to hear from all of you.

Right now, for example, A Gamer Chic friend of mine has a hard-drive issue... she's got a great Geforce 4, 512MB of Ram, and a 2.5Ghz Athlon.. but her HD is a 5400rpm FRAGMENTED piece of junk!

Clearly, you can hear it chugging from time to time (and her low memory doesn't help that).

She should:
Clean her current drive up, and defragment.

AND buy at least a 7200rpm HD, or a 10,000 rpm one would be better!

What component do you have too little of?

Sharing your connection (a humorous but helpful side of things)

hunter — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:09:53 GMT

Ahh yes. Living with people in the house or apartment seems fine. You might think your room mate Henry does web surfing and email, and when in reality, he's downloading **** bunnies Five on Bittorrent and your sister is a itunes whore. But your ass is getting hammered in Quake 4

Well where am I getting at? yes, indubiously, it's the word we are afraid of... Sharing..

Gamers alike, we like to have uber bandwidth, and uber connections at t3 levels. But it aint happening in the real world.

So without further adeiu, here is my suggestions on keeping things at bay in the household of gamers.

- If you have to share, be sure to have common courtesy to tell your roommate/friend/significant other to stop downloading pron and shove the EULA and Anti piracy and 1800 RU LEGIT numbers. In other words , be forewarned of file sharing and downloading. if you have nice roommates, they'll get off for you, if not, unplug their asses off the network. Hey it worked for me.

- If the going gets tough, get your own connection - Now i know that for some you think that getting a high speed connection is costly. Hey but think about it this way. You guys are paying a grip for Cell phone, Internet is not as much and you guy would probably use it more than the phone itself. If your roommates are hogging it up with what i said in the previous line before, try getting your own connection. You know you can install more than 1 DSL modem/line in the house, and you can have multiple cable modems.

- For the tech savvy - if neither is the case, and if any of you have the admin and router logins, and assuming your router is advance to do this, try throttling the bandwidth to that friend of yours who plays too much or downloads. You can also set rules or permissions and settings for controlling all the traffic. In any case, some routers or programs can do this for you. you'll see then they'll be as pissed off as you are with the lag. but at least you can gank them out for more bandwidth! Touche!

- Wait till they finish - yeah i know, some of us have the attitude and say "why the hell do i have to wait for those f*ckers! " well if you want to have a good experience in gaming, just let your roomies and users fall asleep, go draw or prank on them, and come back and rock on with your games. it'll be a treat. Two for the price of one. Payback is a biatch!

- Play the same game together. - sometimes if you guys login the same server, and play the same games playing together on a raid or multi shooter will be better for you, at least then you guys dont have to bicker or whine against each other. Just be forwarned, you'll have people call you brokeback if they keep seeing you play with each other. hah!

- Make sure you're using some good gear - I remember one time me and my roommates used a crappy ass hub in the dumpster. turned out that the hub had bad ports. You get where im getting at. If you use ghetto or free ****, try upgrading, and spending some money. Make your roommate buy it if he's into games, but regardless, make sure when connection you're not using ghetto brand electronics. This way at least you'll know you guys are fine on your side

- upgrade to a better plan - better plans = better equipment in some cases, but also consider the plan in terms of speed. If you get a faster 6mbps download and upload for 20 more, you guys can definitely split the cost. Either way, games and pron will be faster.

- Say no to NAT ... and yes to statics or at least dynamics- NAT to me is crap. I can't go back to it. I can't deal with a fake 192 number like all those fake people in california. If you can get static ip's for everyone (i.e. look at DSLextreme 4 static package) then you solve a **** routing issue that is caused by NAT. Dynamics are great too, so long as everyone can get them. Otherwise, if you have to use Nat, just be sure to RTFM and configure and try settings out.

All in all, caring is sharing people, and it's better we frag and kill our virtual baddies than our roommates for this lag. If you guys have more helpful tips , post some more! love to hear it!

QUAD-SLI!!! When you have too much graphics...

Tytus — Fri, 05 May 2006 10:02:45 GMT

Yep, QUAD-SLI, that's 4 graphics cards!

www.falcon-nw.com is already pimping the idea.

And I gotta say, choosing between QUAD-SLI and something that will help with Lag, it's an easy choice!

But my question is: why QUAD-SLI? Why pay 4x for your graphics?

Seriously, who here would get QUAD-SLI before getting 2Gigs of Ram?

Who would get QUAD-SLI before getting dual-core?

In short, who here would get QUAD-SLI, and why?

Tyt